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Zhen-Wei Tee wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 8:49 pm Attached below.


Sorry not really
I am aware of the hierarchy (in fact it is showing the appearance at hierarchy level). It is a part file and only has one part appearance without any other appearance
I played with it a little bit. The only way I've been able to change the color for the whole Part was to apply an appearance to a single face, copy it, select another face and Ctrl+A to select all, right-click, and paste the appearance.

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Zhen-Wei Tee wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 10:42 pm sometimes the solidworks appearance is just driving me nuts

only one appearance apply at part level, but it is not showing in graphic o[

(seem to happen most frequently on part save from assembly, aka Save as Part from assembly)
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This is because the imported body features have appearances, but they aren't listed in the Property Manager Pane. However, they are listed in the popout appearances panel:
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You can remove them in one shot via the feature tree:
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SPR 1217395 -- Appearance applied on a imported body 'Feature' cannot be removed

Not technically accurate since they can be removed.
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JSculley wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 9:38 am This is because the imported bodies have appearances, but they aren't listed in the Property Manager Pane. However, they are listed in the popout appearances panel:

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You can remove them in one shot via the feature tree:
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SPR 1217395 -- Appearance applied on a imported body 'Feature' cannot be removed

Not technically accurate since they can be removed.

A technical correction:

That appearance in your picture is applied to the "features" that create the bodies. Not the bodies themselves. If the appearance had been added to the bodies, then the appearance would show up under the bodies folder.
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https://help.solidworks.com/2023/englis ... rarchy.htm

Each level overrides the one to the right.

Assembly Component > Face > Feature > Body > Part
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Looks the import model code has a bug that doesn't update the internal table that holds the appearances values in that tab.
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DanPihlaja wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 10:42 am A technical correction:

That appearance in your picture is applied to the "features" that create the bodies. Not the bodies themselves. If the appearance had been added to the bodies, then the appearance would show up under the bodies folder.
Correct. I've edited my post to clarify.
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I just opened a part from a vendor that I need to make some modifications to. I'm going through the long history tree, figuring out what I can suppress and what needs to stay. There are 2 fans on the end of the unit, with protective grills.

The step cut into the end of the part was duplicated with a linear pattern.
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However, the 25 features that create the grill was duplicated for the 2nd grill.
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SPerman wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 11:48 am I just opened a part from a vendor that I need to make some modifications to. I'm going through the long history tree, figuring out what I can suppress and what needs to stay. There are 2 fans on the end of the unit, with protective grills.

The step cut into the end of the part was duplicated with a linear pattern.

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However, the 25 features that create the grill was duplicated for the 2nd grill.

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Maybe someone tried to pattern the grills also, but it didn't work because he or she didn't know to de-select "Features to Pattern" and select "Bodies to Pattern" instead?
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Based on what I am finding in the tree, whoever did the work wasn't very proficient in SW.
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On every single feature, I'm having to change this to "all bodies."
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SPerman wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 3:58 pm On every single feature, I'm having to change this to "all bodies."

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It sounds like a fun time. I'm so glad I almost never have to deal with anyone's models other than mine.
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Glenn Schroeder wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 4:23 pm It sounds like a fun time. I'm so glad I almost never have to deal with anyone's models other than mine.
Some of you never have to work with other people's models and it really shows.

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Solidworks crashed on me in the middle of working on a drawing a little while ago. I had saved often while working on it, including not long before the crash, but it somehow wiped out everything I had done in the last 3 hours (it crashed around 2:00 pm, but the drawing shows it was last saved at 10:51 am). How's everyone else's Friday going?

I've had very few crashes with SW2023, but this was a bad one.
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Glenn Schroeder wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:11 pm Solidworks crashed on me in the middle of working on a drawing a little while ago. I had saved often while working on it, including not long before the crash, but it somehow wiped out everything I had done in the last 3 hours (it crashed around 2:00 pm, but the drawing shows it was last saved at 10:51 am). How's everyone else's Friday going?

I've had very few crashes with SW2023, but this was a bad one.
Are you me? I literally just lost everything I worked on with an assembly from this morning. I clicked save probably 100 times while working for several hours but apparently it wasn't behaving... Not a single thing I did was saved. (2021 here) o[
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Glenn Schroeder wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:11 pm Solidworks crashed on me in the middle of working on a drawing a little while ago. I had saved often while working on it, including not long before the crash, but it somehow wiped out everything I had done in the last 3 hours (it crashed around 2:00 pm, but the drawing shows it was last saved at 10:51 am). How's everyone else's Friday going?

I've had very few crashes with SW2023, but this was a bad one.
39 minutes till it's a great Friday!
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Glenn Schroeder wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:11 pm Solidworks crashed on me in the middle of working on a drawing a little while ago. I had saved often while working on it, including not long before the crash, but it somehow wiped out everything I had done in the last 3 hours (it crashed around 2:00 pm, but the drawing shows it was last saved at 10:51 am). How's everyone else's Friday going?

I've had very few crashes with SW2023, but this was a bad one.
Would be going a lot better if I didn't care. Trying to focus on the positives.
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With the Save File dialog open...
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oh man, crashing while saving, that is the worst!
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TTevolve wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:49 am oh man, crashing while saving, that is the worst!
After 1600 it's a toss, I just leave.
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SPerman wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 3:58 pm On every single feature, I'm having to change this to "all bodies."

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Interestingly, I am often frustrated that by default this is usually set to "Auto-select." Which generally means All Bodies anyway.
I work with multi-body parts, a lot, and I almost always set a cut extrude to go "Through all." and only select the bodies I wish to apply.
This way, if bodies move because of changes I make, the cut continues through.

Another frustration I find is that when I pattern a cut extrude feature, it is again, by default set to "Auto-select" (Tacitly, All) bodies.
I musy ALWAYS change this setting to apply only to the bodies I require..
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I really hope someone actually reads these things.
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That's circular reference and ZTG.
Of course SW crashed to prevent you from creating a blackhole.
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SPerman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:29 pm I really hope someone actually reads these things.

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ironically
a lot of the time, the error report crash on me too
so i get two crash from one crash ... wait... is this their one and two? :o
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That's 2 for 1.
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Frederick_Law wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:31 am That's 2 for 1.
or, a Three For.. ><
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SPerman wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:29 pm I really hope someone actually reads these things.
Dassault error report department
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Really. You can't process the other 1934 files because 1 has to be resolved? (PDM Checkin)

grumph o[
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Gotta love stuff like that. And how do you know which one needs to be resolved?
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KennyG wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:35 pm And how do you know which one needs to be resolved?
Sort by the errors/warnings column, brings them to the top (or bottom).
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Still scratching my head around this...

Why did they change the GD&T tool in SW2022?

The amount of mouse click needed in the new tool is just frustrating

Want to change your GD&T? Make sure to double click on the "correct" area
Want to delete or change your datum? Make sure to double click on the correct datum box tool!
Want to change two or more datum? Double click on the first datum, change it, then double click on the second datum, change it, repeat as needed yay!
Accidentally add a datum that is not needed? There is no back button, make two extra step to delete it!

Right click on the feature frame will show u both the rmb menu and gd&t window... because why not?!
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zwei wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:03 am
Want to change your GD&T? Make sure to double click on the "correct" area
Want to delete or change your datum? Make sure to double click on the correct datum box tool!
Want to change two or more datum? Double click on the first datum, change it, then double click on the second datum, change it, repeat as needed yay!
Accidentally add a datum that is not needed? There is no back button, make two extra step to delete it!

Right click on the feature frame will show u both the rmb menu and gd&t window... because why not?!
Not sure if this changed in 2023 but I only have to double click initially to put it in edit mode. After that, single click in an area activates and allows typing immediately. Seems to work ok although I'd like a picture with some of the menu text to assist selecting the correct option.

There also appears to more options than the old one. My GD&T standards knowledge is rusty, looks like new options have been added such as "Indicators". Also guessing the MBD stuff drove the change as well.
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jcapriotti wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:07 am Not sure if this changed in 2023 but I only have to double click initially to put it in edit mode. After that, single click in an area activates and allows typing immediately. Seems to work ok although I'd like a picture with some of the menu text to assist selecting the correct option.

There also appears to more options than the old one. My GD&T standards knowledge is rusty, looks like new options have been added such as "Indicators". Also guessing the MBD stuff drove the change as well.
TIL something... Never thought of clicking it again after the window show up....

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Sometimes Solidworks is too smart for my own good.

If I wanted a hinge constraint, I would have picked a hinge constraint. For some reason SW decides any cylindrical feature should get this constraint. (Kind of like SW thinks all construction lines are centerlines.)

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