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Exploded View Issues
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:22 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
I rarely use exploded views, but I did one today. I wouldn't be surprised if it was five years or longer since the last time.
It got tricky when working with the Drawing. First, I was trying to attach a note calling out a custom property to the components in the exploded view. Some of them attached just fine, but most of them didn't. I'd move my mouse all over it, but it wouldn't highlight or link to the note. I finally collapsed the view. That let me attach the notes just fine. I went back to the property manager, selected the collapsed view again, and the notes stayed linked and moved along with the components just fine. Problem solved.
Then I tried to add a dimension on a collapsed view. Similar problem. I could select edges or vertices on some components, but not on the others. I opened up the Assembly, and it was exploded. I collapsed it, went back to the Drawing, and dimensions worked fine.
Is this typical behavior for exploded views, or is it just one of those days?
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:48 pm
by mike miller
Are you on 2021?
2021 has a known bug with attaching balloons to exploded views (SPR 1211277). The workaround is to collapse the view, attach balloons and then re-explode the view.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:55 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
mike miller wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:48 pm
Are you on 2021?
2021 has a known bug with attaching balloons to exploded views (SPR 1211277). The workaround is to collapse the view, attach balloons and then re-explode the view.
You nailed it. I am on SW2021. It's comforting to know that this isn't one of those little tricks my computer plays on me to amuse itself.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:48 am
by Merovingien
this bug was already present in previous version of Bugidworks...
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:04 am
by cncah
I am able to do it if I open the model, activate the exploded view, Ctrl+Q, save, then go back to the drawing.
I have had the same issue with dimensions and notes when using different display states.
I have to open the model, activate that display state, Ctrl+Q, save, then go back to the drawing and it works. (Usually)
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:36 pm
by mbiasotti
I love doing exploded views in drawings - especially with balloons and a BOM.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:30 am
by kawuser
mbiasotti wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:36 pm
I love doing exploded views in drawings - especially with balloons and a BOM.
Is this sarcasm
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:55 pm
by B-K
I have had the same problem attaching annotations to exploded views. One thing that sometimes solved the issue was to go into the assembly with the exploded view and make sure perspective was turned off. Save the assembly, and re-insert the exploded view to the drawing.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:57 pm
by S.Casale
B-K wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:55 pm
I have had the same problem attaching annotations to exploded views. One thing that
sometimes solved the issue was to go into the assembly with the exploded view and make sure perspective was turned off. Save the assembly, and re-insert the exploded view to the drawing.
Did anyone else corroborate this as a workaround?
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:59 pm
by S.Casale
mike miller wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:48 pm
2021 has a known bug with attaching balloons to exploded views (SPR 1211277). The workaround is to collapse the view, attach balloons and then re-explode the view.
Hold on. Then how does one ever attach items that aren't visible on the outside of the assembly (without great effort)?
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:13 pm
by mike miller
S.Casale wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:59 pm
Hold on. Then how does one ever attach items that aren't visible on the outside of the assembly (without great effort)?
With great effort.
Ever turned on wireframe in a large assembly? It looks like a drunk draftsman was working overtime.
Fun, fun.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:26 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
S.Casale wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:59 pm
Hold on. Then how does one ever attach items that aren't visible on the outside of the assembly (without great effort)?
One option would be to find the part in the tree, right-click, and choose "Show hidden edges". Of course on complex Assemblies finding that in the tree may be a non-trivial exercise.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm
by S.Casale
Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:26 pm
One option would be to find the part in the tree, right-click, and choose "Show hidden edges". Of course on complex Assemblies finding that in the tree may be a non-trivial exercise.
Not wanting to do that work around. We have a ten pounds of parts in a 1 pound box.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:21 pm
by Glenn Schroeder
S.Casale wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:44 pm
Not wanting to do that work around. We have a ten pounds of parts in a 1 pound box.
I replied to this quote in the other Discussion. How do you do it in SE, assuming it has an easier method?
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:08 pm
by Jaylin Hochstetler
Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:21 pm
I replied to this quote in the other Discussion. How do you do it in SE, assuming it has an easier method?
In SE the auto balloon actually works! The auto explode also is quite impressive!
Attached is a video where I assemble a part, create an exploded view, create a drawing view, BOM and auto balloon it.
FYI I'm new to SE so the video is a little lengthy.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:00 pm
by Ben
Jaylin Hochstetler wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:08 pm
In SE the auto balloon actually works! The auto explode also is quite impressive!
Attached is a video where I assemble a part, create an exploded view, create a drawing view, BOM and auto balloon it.
FYI I'm new to SE so the video is a little lengthy.
SE? i'm sorry but why does that apply to my problem?
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:23 am
by DanPihlaja
Ben wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:00 pm
SE? i'm sorry but why does that apply to my problem?
Because he was replying to someone who asked how to do it in SE.
And also....what problem are you referring to? You didn't ask any questions in this post.....and even if you did.....it was Glenn's post.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:33 pm
by Jaylin Hochstetler
Ben wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:00 pm
SE? i'm sorry but why does that apply to my problem?
See below.
dpihlaja wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:23 am
Because he was replying to someone who asked how to do it in SE.
And also....what problem are you referring to? You didn't ask any questions in this post.....and even if you did.....it was Glenn's post.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:47 pm
by Ben
ooops i thought i was in the thread i made. my bad
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:24 am
by DanPihlaja
Ben wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:47 pm
ooops i thought i was in the thread i made. my bad
No issues! I apologize for what (I read now) to be a terse tone when I replied to you. I was flabbergasted.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:13 am
by zxys001
BTW,.. has anyone seen (macro or other?) or want a Spherical Explode?
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:58 pm
by Jaylin Hochstetler
Glenn Schroeder wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:22 pm
I rarely use exploded views, but I did one today. I wouldn't be surprised if it was five years or longer since the last time.
It got tricky when working with the Drawing. First, I was trying to attach a note calling out a custom property to the components in the exploded view. Some of them attached just fine, but most of them didn't. I'd move my mouse all over it, but it wouldn't highlight or link to the note. I finally collapsed the view. That let me attach the notes just fine. I went back to the property manager, selected the collapsed view again, and the notes stayed linked and moved along with the components just fine. Problem solved.
Then I tried to add a dimension on a collapsed view. Similar problem. I could select edges or vertices on some components, but not on the others. I opened up the Assembly, and it was exploded. I collapsed it, went back to the Drawing, and dimensions worked fine.
Is this typical behavior for exploded views, or is it just one of those days?
BTW, I confirmed this was fixed in SP4.1.
Re: Exploded View Issues
Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:48 am
by Kwetla
I was having this issue in Solidworks 2017 where it wouldn't let me add balloons to a model for which i had created a custom view. I couldn't select some of the part surfaces, and in some cases the selectable surfaces were phantom ones floating in space.
One fix was to not use custom views - using the Isometric view seemed to solve it.
Another fix was so save your custom view as one of the standard views, i.e save your view as the 'front' view, and then use the 'front' view in your drawing. This seemed to work fine, but meant that the standard views were all messed up when viewing the CAD in future.
One final fix was to make sure that you hadn't scaled your drawing view to anything custom. Instead, scale your drawing using the sheet scale, and set your drawing view to match the sheet scale. This fixed it for some reason...
